The PRT Podcast

Join us as we explore insights into chronic pain, neuroscience, research, and healing techniques with real patients and leading experts. New episodes drop monthly!

🎙 Episode 15: Listening to the People Who Got Better: New Research on Chronic Fatigue Syndrome Recovery

Date: September 4, 2026

What can we learn about chronic fatigue syndrome by listening to the people who actually recovered from it? In this episode, Daniel sits down with two researchers who set out to answer exactly that question. Julie Harper conducted in-depth interviews with eight women who recovered from ME/CFS after struggling with it herself for seven years. Dr. Sarah Cefai analyzed 75 recovery stories from Raelan Agle's YouTube channel, looking for the patterns that kept showing up across very different people and very different journeys. What they found has a lot in common with what pain reprocessing therapy sees again and again: a shift in how symptoms are understood, a growing sense of agency, and a different relationship with the body.

🎙 Episode 14: You Don't Have to Learn to Live With It: Tinnitus, Sound Sensitivity, and the Neuroplastic Connection

Date: August 6, 2026

If you've ever been told that tinnitus, hyperacusis, or misophonia are conditions you simply have to manage and live with, this episode is going to offer you a different perspective. Daniel sits down with Dr. Marcia Dewey, an audiologist who founded the Tinnitus and Hyperacusis Program at Froedtert and the Medical College of Wisconsin and has spent years integrating neuroplasticity-based approaches into her work. Together they break down what these three conditions actually are, how fear and attention amplify symptoms, where structural issues end and neuroplastic processes begin, and how tools like somatic tracking, imaginal exposure, and safety learning can help people change their relationship with sound and, in many cases, dramatically reduce their symptoms.

🎙 Episode 13: When the Illness Ends But the Body Doesn't Know It: A Real Chronic Fatigue Case

Date: June 18, 2026

What happens when the infection clears but the symptoms don't? In this episode, Daniel shares recordings from eight real therapy sessions with a client named Eric, who had been living with chronic fatigue for years after a bout of mono. You'll hear Eric describe the weight of his exhaustion, the fear and confusion that surrounded it, and the beliefs that kept him stuck. And you'll hear what actually changed, not through a single breakthrough moment, but through a series of small shifts that gradually taught his nervous system it was safe. By the end of the episode, Eric is cycling, hiking, concentrating better at work, and beginning to trust his body again.

🎙 Episode 12: Three Cases, Two Experts, One Question: Is This Neuroplastic?

Date: May 1, 2026

Daniel is joined by Dr. Mark Lumley, founder of Emotional Awareness and Expression Therapy (EAET), and Christie Uipi, psychotherapist and co-developer of Pain Reprocessing Therapy, to discuss three real patient cases: vestibular migraine and dizziness, chronic back pain with nighttime flare-ups, and migraine with uncertainty about neuroplastic diagnosis. Together they explore how emotions, conditioning, and the nervous system intersect — and what treatment might actually look like for each person.

🎙 Episode 11: When the Work Isn’t Working: 5 Reasons You May Still Be Stuck

Date: March 19, 2026

You’ve done the work. You’ve read the books, tried the tools, and still feel stuck. In the Season 2 premiere of the PRT Podcast, new host Daniel Lyman, LCSW, joins clinician Gabrielle Jacobs to explore five of the most common and most overlooked reasons people stall in chronic pain recovery. From waiting to feel safe before acting, to living with intensity, to identity fusion with a diagnosis, this conversation is honest, practical, and genuinely useful for patients and practitioners alike. Getting stuck doesn’t mean you’re doing it wrong. It means there is another layer to look at.

🎙 Episode 10: Building Hope and Belief

Date: December 4, 2025

John talks with patient Rachel and guest Raelan Agle about life-stopping chronic fatigue and post-viral symptoms after COVID, and how belief, emotional regulation, and nervous system safety can create real openings for change. A grounded, hopeful look at living again, even when exhaustion feels like a monster you can’t explain.

🎙 Episode 9: Thinking Less and Feeling Better

Date: October 16, 2025

John talks with physician Dr. Becca Kennedy and patient “Sarah” about shifting from rumination to safety, processing medical trauma, and using simple emotional and somatic tools to calm the nervous system and reduce pelvic pain. A practical look at feeling safer right now—even when your brain wants certainty.

🎙 Episode 8: Healing Trauma Without the Drama

Date: August 28, 2025

In this episode, John sits down with Dr. David Clarke to explore the hidden stressors beneath chronic pain and trauma. Together, they walk patient Rachel through practical tools to unlearn pain, build self-compassion, and find healing.

🎙 Episode 7: The No BS Guide to Self-Compassion

Date: July 31, 2025

In this episode, therapist and host John Gasienica sits down with Vanessa Blackstone, Executive Director of the Pain Psychology Center and co-author of The Pain Reprocessing Therapy Workbook, for a candid, compassionate conversation about one of the biggest roadblocks to healing: perfectionism. They explore the real-life journey of Jaycie, a nurse and mom grappling with chronic pain, burnout, and the relentless pressure to keep it all together.

🎙 Episode 6: Why Hasn’t Journaling Healed Me Yet?

Date: July 1, 2025

In this session, John is joined by therapist Daniel Lyman for a powerful session with June, a filmmaker struggling with chronic migraines. Together, they explore how fear, anger, and sadness fuel neuroplastic pain—and how reframing these emotions can unlock healing. With real-time emotional exposure and practical insights from Pain Reprocessing Therapy, this episode offers a meaningful look at what it takes to move through a healing plateau.

🎙 Episode 5: Ask a Doctor: Is My Pain Neuroplastic? Pt. 2

Date: May 27, 2025

In this transformative follow-up to Episode 4, John guides patient David through a real-time therapy session—joined by mind-body medicine pioneer Dr. Howard Schubiner. Building on David’s recent neuroplastic pain diagnosis, this episode explores the emotional patterns and subconscious fear responses that keep chronic symptoms alive. As David confronts past trauma, guilt, and anxiety, you’ll hear powerful shifts unfold live—both physically and emotionally. Dr. Schubiner offers insight throughout, breaking down why these techniques work and how healing happens when the brain feels safe. Whether you’re a practitioner or someone living with pain, this episode offers profound hope and practical tools for lasting change.

🎙 Episode 4: Ask a Doctor: Is My Pain Neuroplastic? Pt. 1

Date: April 15, 2025

In part one of this two-part experimental series, patient David undergoes a full neuroplastic pain assessment with Dr. Matt McClanahan, DO — a board-certified physician and expert in chronic pain. Join John as he explores the nuanced diagnostic process, how emotional and historical factors play a role in chronic symptoms, and what it means when pain has no clear structural cause. This conversation will shift your understanding of pain and recovery.

🎙 Episode 3: How to Stop Fixating on Pain

Date: March 13, 2025

Rumination—those endless loops of worry, symptom monitoring, and “what if” thinking—can make chronic pain worse by keeping the nervous system stuck in a state of high alert. In this episode, therapist John Gasienica works with Leslie, a new mom struggling with chronic pelvic pain and obsessive thoughts about her symptoms.

🎙 Episode 2: Emotions – Do They Matter Anyway?

Date: February 11, 2025

In this episode, John Gasienica, LCSW, assists a client in uncovering hidden emotions that are hindering his recovery from chronic pain. Christie Uipi, LCSW, a leading expert in pain psychology, joins John. Together, they explore the powerful connection between emotions and healing, offering deep insights and practical strategies for both clients and practitioners.

🎙 Episode 1: Calming the Nervous System: Methods for Getting Unstuck

Date: December 12, 2024

In this episode of The Pain Reprocessing Therapy Podcast, John Gasienica and Daniella Deutsch discuss the transformative power of Pain Reprocessing Therapy (PRT) in overcoming chronic pain. They share the inspiring journey of Anna, a patient who learns to harness the appropriate motivation and energy to successfully use PRT techniques like somatic tracking and emotional awareness. Anna’s story illustrates how retraining the brain’s perception of pain can lead to lasting recovery. Whether you’re a patient seeking relief from pain or a practitioner looking for effective tools, this episode offers key insights into the healing process through PRT.